From panka001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Aug 26 16:04:12 EDT 1994 Article: 6796 of rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Xref: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:6796 Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote.,rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Path: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!maroon!panka001 From: panka001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Jon A Pankake) Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt Message-ID: Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: maroon1.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 18:16:34 GMT Lines: 16 >Mike Chu (gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: >: I've figured out some of the tunes from MS John Hurt's live Best of album, >: but there are still a few tracks that stump me... Does anybody out there >: know what tunings he uses? Hurt seldom tuned to concert pitch, so some of his keys may be difficult to identify for that reason. I am sure his FRANKIE is played in DGDGBD, and PAYDAY seems to be in a open D, DADF#AD. TALKING CASEY JONES, given the knife technique, is also in one of these open tunings as well. Another player recommended open E, but I get nervous about my old guitars and extra-light strings, so I never retune anything ABOVE concert pitch. You can play the same fingering in the open D as you would in an open E, with less stress on the instrument. Good luck, and keep working on those great Hurt tunes! From searls@buphy.bu.edu Sat Aug 27 11:56:06 EDT 1994 Article: 6801 of rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Xref: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:6801 Path: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!news.bu.edu!searls From: searls@buphy.bu.edu (Dave Searls) Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote.,rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt Followup-To: rec.music.bluenote.,rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Date: 26 Aug 1994 22:29:16 GMT Organization: Boston University Physics Department Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33lqbt$3jh@news.bu.edu> References: <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu> <33llck$oe9@crl.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: buphy.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : Michael Robinson (maidhc@netcom.com) wrote: : : Mike Chu (gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: : : : I've figured out some of the tunes from MS John Hurt's live Best of album, : : : but there are still a few tracks that stump me... Does anybody out there : : : know what tunings he uses? : : Mostly he used standard tuning, but he also used open G and it wouldn't : : surprise me if he did a few in open D also. I believe he uses mostly standard tuning. There are a few things in Open G(DGDGBD), like Frankie and Albert, and I believe Sliding Delta is played in open D. I learned Frankie and Albert from the Rory Block tapes that Homespun sells. She teaches it is open G, and probably saw John Hurt play it that way. You can get these tapes from Homespun(800-33-tapes). I have also seen(in a catalog) a 6 tape set on the Guitar of Mississippi John Hurt by Stefan Grossman. I think that there are tapes devoted to the different tunings and to blues in different keys. You can get the catalog from: Stefan Grossman's Guitar Workshop P.O Box 802 Sparta, New Jersey 07871 From schguitar@aol.com Sat Aug 27 11:56:51 EDT 1994 Article: 6808 of rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Xref: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:6808 Path: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: schguitar@aol.com (SchGuitar) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt Date: 27 Aug 1994 00:16:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 24 Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <33mem1$195@search01.news.aol.com> References: <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: search01.news.aol.com In article <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu>, gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu (Mike Chu) writes: :I've figured out some of the tunes from MS John Hurt's live Best of album, :but there are still a few tracks that stump me... Does anybody out there :know what tunings he uses? I saw John Hurt at one of his first shows up North. The club was called The Ontario Place, I think, in the D.C. area. I asked him to play Frankie. He agreed, said it was in open G but couldn't or didn't want to try to retune his guitar, so asked me to tune mine for him. I did, and his playing of the tune was all I could wish for. Another interesting anecdote that evening was when we were sitting around a table in-between sets, John very gingerly asked me if I thought the management would mind if he took a sugar cube from the bowl for his coffee. He told me he'd been on the plantation all his life except for the one time they brought him to New York in the Twenties to make his early recordings. His rediscovery brought him into a whole different world, and his shy, quiet ways were as refreshing to us as our city ways were a challenge to him. ..............................Eric Schoenberg From olsen@ohsu.edu Sun Aug 28 11:07:31 EDT 1994 Article: 6822 of rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Xref: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca rec.music.bluenote.blues:25 rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:6822 Path: undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!torn!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!gaia.ucs.orst.edu!news.ohsu.edu!ohsu.edu!olsen From: olsen@ohsu.edu Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote.blues,rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 07:05:21 GMT Organization: OHSU Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.53.61.50 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <33iicb$7mj@acmex.gatech.edu> gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu (Mike Chu) writes: >From: gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu (Mike Chu) >Subject: Mississippi John Hurt >Date: 25 Aug 1994 12:54:35 -0400 >I've figured out some of the tunes from MS John Hurt's live Best of album, >but there are still a few tracks that stump me... Does anybody out there >know what tunings he uses? If You Don't Want Me... you got to have me anyhow (or something like) that is in DADF#AD as is Payday and I think...Talking Casey. As everyone else has added Frankie is in DGDGBD. I think the rest are in some form of standard tuning. My $0.02 worth Get your hands on Stefan Grossman's book on MJH it's worth it. >Mike >-- >Mike Chu -- Chemical Engineering >Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 >Internet: gt0179a@prism.gatech.edu >"Bob Dylan is my father, Joan Baez is my mother, and I'm their bastard son."